Jane Goodall said she would launch Trump and Musk on one-way trip into space | Jane Goodall

In a student life the behavior of chimpanzees, Jane Goodall has become an authority on the aggressiveness of alpha adults. Now, in an interview published only a few days after her death, the famous primatologist reveals what she would do with Donald Trump, Elon Musk and other human beings whom she considered showing similar features: launching them by passing through space.

The insight of Goodall’s thought comes in the Netflix documentary famous Last Words, recorded in March and kept under his death until his death last week at the age of 91.

“There are people I don’t like, and I would like to put them on one of Musk’s spaceships and send them all to the planet that he is sure that he will discover,” Goodall told the interviewer Brad Falchuk during the 55 -minute revealing special to discuss his life, work and heritage.

Does Musk, the founder of Spacex and Trump Allied with a penchant for exposed Nazi style greetings and the dismissal of thousands of federal workers, be among them, Falchuk wanted to know.

“Oh, absolutely. He would be the host. You can imagine who I would put this spacecraft. With Musk would be Trump and some of Trump’s real supporters,” she said.

“And then I would put [Russian president Vladimir] Poutine in there, and I would put [China’s] President XI. I would certainly put [Israeli prime minister Benjamin] Netanyahu there and her far-right government. Put them all on this spaceship and send them.

This is not the first time that Goodall, champion of environmental advocacy, criticism in particular Trump.

In an interview in 2022 with MSNBC, she said that he had shown “the same type of behavior as a male chimpanzee will show when he argued in domination with another. They are straight, they fade, they project themselves as really larger and aggressive than they really have it to intimidate their rivals. ”

In the interview with Netflix, the first in the new series of the streaming network capturing the thoughts of the emblematic world figures to disseminate only after their death, Goodall also explained his thought.

“We get, interesting, two types of alpha. One does everything by aggression, and because they are strong and they fight, they do not last very long. Others do it using their brain, as a young man will not dispute a higher ranking than if his friend, often his brother, is with him. And you know, they last a lot, much longer, “she said.

She also examined the “politicization” of behavior and what her studies had taught her about the aggressive behavior shown by human and chimpanze groups when they were confronted with something they perceived as hostile, even if no threat existed.

“The chimpanzees see a stranger from a neighboring community, and they get excited, and the hair stands out, and they reach out and touch another, and they have these faces of anger and fear, and that catch, and the others catch this feeling that this male has had, and they all become aggressive,” she said.

“It’s contagious,” she added. “Some of these demonstrations that become aggressive, they balance them. They all want to become and join and become aggressive. They protect their territory or fight for domination. ”

Falchuk asked if she thought it was the same for humans. “Probably, sometimes yes. But I really believe that most people are decent, “she said.

“My biggest hope is to raise this new generation of compassionate citizens, roots and shoots. But do we have time? I don’t know. It’s a really dark period.”

Goodall, born in London five years before the start of the Second World War, compared the fight against the darkness of current politics to Great Britain in hand towards Nazi Germany and the spirit of the obstinacy manifested by Winston Churchill.

“This does not mean that you do not have moments of depression, but then you get out of it and say:” Ok, I’m not going to let them win “,” she said.

“It’s like Churchill in the war, his famous speech, we will fight them on the beaches, we will fight them in the streets and cities, then he turned away from a friend and was heard to say:” We will fight them at the ends of broken bottles because that’s all that we have done well. “

Goodall, in a post-interview address on the camera, ended with a message of encouragement for those who fight against political oppression and climate urgency.

“Even today, when the planet is dark, there is always hope. Do not lose hope. If you lose hope, you become apathetic and do nothing,” she said.

“And if you want to save what is always beautiful in this world – if you want to save the planet for future generations, your grandchildren, their grandchildren – then think of the actions you take every day. Because, multiplied a million, a billion times, even small actions will make a big change.”