Ben Shapiro and Megyn Kelly Trade Scathing Attacks

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Ben Shapiro Thursday, I spared no effort to continue Megyn Kelly after she ripped him apart the day before and accused him of trying to label her as an anti-Semite. Kelly blew up Shapiro while defending Pier Morganwhose Shapiro show was heavily criticized for featuring vehement anti-Semites, calling it “”Jerry Springer“politics.”
Shapiro’s barbs toward Kelly came while he was answering questions from his viewers on his show.
“Josh said, quote: ‘Dear Ben, I’ve been watching a lot of your adversarial interviews lately, and I’ve noticed that once they run out of arguments, they always fall back on the Israel issue. “Yeah, I noticed that too,” Shapiro began, reading further into the question:
“I noticed this particularly in Megyn Kelly’s defense Tucker Carlsonwhere she claimed that your problem with him and recently with her boiled down to Israel, which I think is an incorrect characterization. They just find it convenient to blame Israel instead of facing the actual arguments you are making. My question is: how do you deal with people like that? People who, every time you disagree with them, just say the reason you disagree with them is because of Israel? I like the way Matt Walsh said it: people who are Israel first, but who come from the opposite direction – meaning the first thing they care about is being anti-Israeli. I would like to know your opinion on this subject.
“So yeah, they’re lying. Megyn is lying, and so is Tucker. I mean, period. They’re just lying, okay?” Shapiro responded, adding:
I started criticizing Tucker Carlson for his economic agendas in 2018. And then, in the more modern, post-Fox iteration of Tucker, I started criticizing Tucker for his trip to Russia to sniff the bread and kiss. that of Vladimir Putin ass.
My widespread criticism of Tucker over the past few months is one: he harbored and hid a Nazi, Nick Fuenteswhich has nothing to do with Israel. It has to do with the glazing of a Nazi, Nick Fuentes. And then I gave a speech at Heritage in which I highlighted the fact that Tucker Carlson is in no way a traditional conservative and is at this point a quasi-anarchist conspirator, seeking to tear down the fundamental ideas and institutions of the United States.
Go watch the heritage speech. I believe Israel is mentioned once in a 35 minute speech that is all about Tucker’s general worldview and how it in no way represents traditional conservatism.
Megyn is even more dishonest. I have literally never – not once – mentioned Megyn Kelly in the context of Israel. My review of Megyn Kelly started when – and again, I went back and watched the tape because it’s all on tape, gang. Go back and watch the tape. Megyn wanted me to come watch one of her live events, which we did for free, obviously, and it was a favor to Megyn because Megyn and I were friendly.
And of course, we had a very long-standing business relationship where we really, really helped her start her business, which she freely admits or admitted to at the time. I don’t know if she still does it. She used to have me on her show on Fox News sometimes. Now I see she takes credit for my entire career. Well, you know, congratulations, Megyn, I guess. And see if you are happy with your decisions. I don’t agree about my career path, but that’s okay. If you want to take credit for it, sure.
“Anyway, my review of Megyn on stage was: why not call Candace Owens for having involved Erika Kirk in the murder of Charlie Kirk? That was my on-stage review. And why not denounce Tucker Carlson for presenting Nick Fuentes as Charlie Kirk’s main enemy? Because Nick Fuentes hated, despised Charlie Kirk, and the feeling was mutual. That was my criticism of Megyn,” Shapiro continued, referencing two recent outbursts on the MAGA right. Carlson’s platform against Fuentes and Owens’ attacks on Erika Kirk have deeply divided the MAGA base and led to an evolving civil war within the movement.
“And then she went on to say that I was lying about Candace and that in reality Candace was even, quote, ‘defending Erika Kirk in her own way.’ Well, it turns out it hasn’t aged amazingly,” Shapiro quipped. He went on to say that he never called Kelly an anti-Semite:
So here’s what’s really happening: What’s actually happened is that a game has now appeared in this part of the right. The game looks like this: I’m not accusing you of anti-Semitism. Instead, you claim I did it. And then you say, “How dare he call me an anti-Semite. He’s trying to cancel me.” This is the Jussie Smollett political demands. You attack yourself and then claim that I attacked you as an anti-Semite. It’s absurd.
I believe Tucker Carlson fostered anti-Semitism by repeatedly attacking some of America’s worst anti-Semites and then whitewashing their views. I never called Megyn Kelly an anti-Semite. By the way, I didn’t call Piers Morgan an anti-Semite either. I said his show was the Jerry Springer of politics: a stupid clown car. And it is. That’s all. That’s literally it. I didn’t say it should be eliminated. I didn’t say people should stop watching his show if they wanted to. I said I didn’t want to appear in the clown car silliness, which I think is an aspect of free speech. I don’t need to associate myself with Piers’ stupid show. I mean, a lot of people like it. Good for him. And Piers measures his morality by clicks.
Kelly responded on his show later Thursday and defended Morgan by saying he pushes back hard on his most controversial guests — going so far as to tell them they look like “Nazis.” The two men also exchanged blows on social media:
“It’s very sad for me as someone who has known Ben forever and created Ben. One hundred percent he became a star on my show at The Kelly file. I’m really sorry to see this happen. And like, there’s absolutely no reason to be policing guests on someone else’s show and trying to put down someone who is as interesting but — and I mean this in a complimentary way — harmless like Piers Morgan,” Kelly said, accusing Shapiro of purity testing other right-wing influencers.
“Piers is not a nefarious force. Piers is an interesting guy who has an interesting series. Maybe it’s for you, maybe it’s not. It’s up to you. I think he’s really interesting, and I think his interviews are great. But now we have to get rid of Piers Morgan? So obviously, according to Ben, Tucker had to go. Obviously, even though he helped build Candace, she had to go,” Kelly continued, concluding:
Then I had to go, even though I have a 15 year friendship with this guy who publicly attacked me. Same thing. Not even a text in advance, even though we had gotten a text literally four months or four weeks earlier saying, “Anyway, who we’re friends with” – because he was mad I was friends with Tucker – “our friendship means more to us than it does to her, and we’re not going to do anything to screw this up.” Next thing I know, I’m getting attacked by him on stage at Turning Point.
Now, Piers Morgan, how many people have to leave? Really, how many people do we need to exclude from the conservative movement to make Ben happy? This is ridiculous, and it’s not just Ben. There are others who follow his lead when he calls you an anti-Semite or says you should be expelled from polite society. There are a few others, but not a whole lot, I have to say. Ben’s numbers are very bad right now, but he has some influence with some members of the team. This is so wrong. Good for Piers Morgan for fighting back. I’m all Team Piers, and I’m sorry to see Ben going in this direction.
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