Kara Swisher Would Rather Work for Sam Altman Than Mark Zuckerberg

Kara Swisher is the epitome of a multi-hyphenate: a podcast host, journalist, author and CEO agitator.
Swisher has also, in his own way, made IDGAF his personal brand. Deeply thought-provoking and happy to ask the tough questions, she doesn’t worry about being liked. As she said during a recent live event: “I have four kids!
As host of With Kara SwisherHer bi-weekly podcast for Vox Media, she interviews leaders in technology and politics, inspiring them to share things they can’t reveal in any other gabfest. For Rotateher Vox show with New York University marketing professor Scott Galloway, she keeps the banter between herself and her co-host, but she still doesn’t hold back. Swisher’s opinions are her own and she doesn’t hesitate to share them.
Swisher brought all his opinions, and more, to this week’s episode The big interviewdigging deeper into AI, Silicon Valley’s relationship with President Donald Trump, and his least favorite tech CEO.
This interview has been edited for length and clarity.
KATIE DRUMMOND: Kara Swisher, welcome to The Big Interview. Thanks for being here.
KARA SWITZERLAND: THANKS. I’m sorry I can’t be in person at your beautiful studio.
Next time.
Who is that behind you?
Actually, no one listening to this can see it, but it’s a giant version of the WIRED cover with Edward Snowden.
Oh yeah. Look at him.
One of our reporters, Andy Greenberg, had this at his house for years, and then he finally said, “My wife needs me to get this out of the house. Can I bring it to the office?” And I said “of course”. So now he’s behind me when I record this podcast.
I did a good interview with him many years ago.
He’s still there.
Yeah. He is.
We like to start with a few quick questions. I’m sure you’re used to this sort of thing. Are you ready to leave?
Ready.
ALL RIGHT. The most active thread you are on.
God. With my children.
Podcasts or sub-stacks?
What do you mean? Am I listening?
Choose one.
Ah, podcasts.
I thought.
Obviously.
The tech lead you’d least want to get stuck in an elevator with.
Oh my God. All. Uh, Mark Zuckerberg.
More disruptive: AI or social networks?
Social networks.



