It’s a big high school, 3,000-person gym. We were excited that we might max out the capacity on this 3,000-person gym in Tucson, you know, which is a city but not one of the bigger cities in the country. My cab driver was about five blocks away from the high school, and he said, Is there a big concert going on? Why are there all these people out here? I said, you can let me out here. And he said, no. The high school is five blocks away. There was a line of five blocks of people. We couldn’t have it in the gym. Twenty-five thousand people showed up. It took over the entire football field. The biggest rally in Arizona history happened that day because people inherently understand that when big money takes over your government, they don’t just screw over your government, they screw over everyday parts of your life. I think that’s the message that has become so clear in the Trump era.
Senator Sanders used to, you know, have that message and sometimes felt like a loner. But there were people at that rally that said, Man, I think maybe he was right this entire time, as you watch the richest people on earth run the Cabinet meetings. And so I think that this is the message that is starting to connect with people. And if the argument between our party is what to call it, I don’t think it matters that much what you call it, you know, in your magazine or a newspaper. What everyday people understand is you should have a say over your own life and your own government—not somebody with infinite money having ten million times your say and you barely get a say.
Bacon: Um, OK. A law is one thing, and Republicans will block that, but is it, would you agree with the idea that the DNC and individual democratic candidates should not take, should not have super PACs and should not take big, massive amounts of money from an individual?
